[The thing about fences is that it's a lot easier to lean against them when they're not electrocuted, rimed with barbed wire, or otherwise actively warning you away. And if there isn't an obvious fence at all, then it's a lot harder to know where the boundaries are.

Case in point, Jamil huffs. (A little exasperated, a little wryly amused.) His fingers get in there again, not quite shooing Kalim away.]

You watched those videos, didn't you.

[Those videos, the people on Magicam who barely know how to tie a knot sometimes.]

If you do it their way, you pinch the fabric like so...

[He held Kalim's hands, having them pinch the fabric. Because Kalim always seemed to learn better by doing...at least doing with guidance. So clearly, the best way of explaining was by holding Kalim's hands and them doing the knot together, kind of, while talking him through it.

(Jamil isn't going to register anything odd about this until much, much later, or until Kalim makes a big deal out of it, whichever comes first. As of right now, Kalim's always in his space so this is just more of the same, yes? Kalim got in his personal space, and he had to explain something or another.)]

...and then twist this way, and that is how you make a knot. Any questions?

[Lunch was, apparently, up to him which meant that...they had a lot of chicken, so he'd make something with that.]